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zamial · Oct 24, 2007, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by DarkGanni

A thread I can finally say what I think about pugs, pugs = full of retards. I was forming a CLEAROUT fow group today afternoon, asked everyone if they all got like 3hrs time, checked builds and corrected some, however there are those typical idiots: one of them asks if we can do the beach I reply we'll do it later and 14yr old or probably even less as he was he quits, some other guy says sorry I have to go. So I learned my lesson, PUGS = EPIC FAIL *point*

- Ganni

EXACTLY

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Kale · Oct 24, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

I hate PuGs a lot sometimes, but at times they are okay.
I just hated them so much when in the last mission of prof every group I got in sucked....I got out a long bow and did it with henchies.....Been using henchies/heroes whenever possible since xD

Corpselooter · Oct 24, 2007, 08:15 PM // 20:15

I only PuG Slaver's Exile, since most people that cleared the game aren't morons. That is why i only PuG in late-game area's. For everything else, there's heroes.

Sekkira · Oct 24, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

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Originally Posted by Nomen Mendax

I had to address this, but can't put it any better than Penny Arcade did a while ago.

One of my favourite comics.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

WoW ripped off of Wolfenstein 3D. Like fer seriously. It's not so much ripping people off but following standards, and WoW is starting to create quite a lot of standards these days.

Blizzard hasn't set any standards for the MMORPG genre. They're just using them all.

On topic, I PuG every chance I get on my survivors. You may be thinking "But you're crazy!" or "Wow, another asshole leaver". I assure you, though, that I'm always the last one left standing, ressing everyone up with the party saving Death Pact Signet then partywiping again because the idiots went and got killed again.

Truth be told though, I like the rage. It's an addiction of sorts. Partying with heroes and henchies is just boring, because you know you're going to beat it. People though, well you have someone to chat to while survivoring. Unless I quest, which I grab them all and do them as quick as possible.

bhavv · Oct 24, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

To the OP: Find a guild/alliance.

Pugs are useless in GW and always will be. Heroes and henchmen > Pug any day.

I still hope that one day Anet will have the wisdom to allow full hero parties in PVE.

bhavv · Oct 24, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

So this pretty much supports the fact Anet turned GW into a single player/co-op RPG.

Nope, GW was a multiplayer game with a single player OPTION since day one. The manual says play with others or solo with henchmen.

Many people didnt buy GW to do what others tell them and to fail continuosly in the hands of a scrub PUG party, or have to spend hours LFG.

Heroes and Henchmen are where GW PVE wins, 7 heroes would make it win over even more people.

Anyway, this thread fails. No one tells me how to play the game or ruins my gaming experience with thier ignorance and stupidity anymore. I play it how I want and how I enjoy. And that is without Pugs.

Pugs killed themselves, heroes never affected them, people stopped pugging because at least 90% of puggers are stupid.

Gigashadow · Oct 24, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

If it were easier to tell who was decent (a good enough player with a decent attitude), such as by personal reputation (e.g. Ebay's positive/negative votes about a person), or if guilds were well known and had reputations so that they cared who they recruited (as in other games), then I think a lot of people would be more willing to PUG.

Nyktos · Oct 24, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

omg gw riped of zelda i men they both have sords in them omg its so obvious

On Topic: Pugs suck. I was going to put something starting with "If they ever stop sucking" here, but I realized I was deluding myself. So let me start a sentence with something a bit more likely: If my computer gains intelligence and refuses to start GW if I ever use henchmen again, I'll go back to PUGs. Somehow I don't see that happening though.

Tyla · Oct 24, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

Just curious, I've been playing WoW since summer and haven't seriously played GW since. Heroes killed it all for me. It may seem different for all, but to me GW has become a Single Player RPG with chat rooms where you can run around (outposts). Thx Anet for supporting an Anti Social and Elitist community (zomg u forget dis skill, u suxorz, *kick)

i do h/h because pugs are only good to pair with if you need a laugh at the crappy builds you get [skill]mending[/skill]
plus in PvP the only place where heroes are mainly used is hero versus hero.
when people stop running crappy bars,i will start pugging again for fun and not pisstake

**cosyfiep** · Oct 24, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56

yes, Virginia, people still pug.....lots of people like to play with other RL people, not just heroes and henchies.

JoeKnowMo · Oct 24, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

If you don't have a capable and somewhat personable leader, the pug will usually fail. I've pugged a lot in GW:EN and most of the time it's been a fun experience.

One of the reasons I have few titles is because I get bored played with just h/h. The other is because I suck...

Kook~NBK~ · Oct 24, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Ahh, It's been a while since a "PUGS SUCK" thread got started (Sorry OP, but that's what any discussion about PUGs in these forums degenerate to)!

But to answer the question: Yes, there are many people who still PUG, but not nearly as many as there were before Nightfall came out (Heroes). I still PUG from time to time, and have had more success with them than failures.

Teh [prefession]-zorz · Oct 24, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Heros > humans> hench

wilebill · Oct 24, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Hi Wretchman, I've got a Mage at 70 on Farstriders and a Druid at 70 on Alleria. I play GW a lot more than WoW these days, but nothing against WoW from me obviously.

You get with a decent guild in GW, you get all the player interaction you want. So, I wind up playing a lot with guildies and if not with heroes and henchies. PUGs rarely, they are as bad as ever.

You may complain about cookie cutter builds for PvP on GW, but have you been in a raiding guild on WoW lately? Your build gets dictated to you there too, along with your playstyle.

PUGs in WoW (on my servers anyway) are just as bad as PUGs in GW. In WoW, it is best either to hit the instances and Master Level quests with guildies or friends; and if not just solo until you can.

Perversely enough from your point of view, what I love most about GW is the heroes and henchies! Set up your heroes right, and they are better than most players.

cheeze123 · Oct 24, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

they both suck! jk
i prefer playing missions with people, makes things more interesting. i only use henchroes if i have to or for questing

arcady · Oct 24, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz

Heros > humans> hench

Skillwise:

Heroes > Henchmen > Humans > PUGing with pre-searing Gwen > players of Wa/Mos.

Enjoyment wise:

Humans > players of Wa/Mos > PUGing with Pre-searing Gwen > Heroes > Henchmen.

=HT=Ingram · Oct 24, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44

I do as long as I have the time to commit to a PUG.. At least 1 time a night normally... Other times when I am only on an hour or so, maybe less... I just go H/H some basic quests on something... Or farm a green... somethign like that... I keep my Puging comitments for times when I have time to do what they are up too. If you only have an hour to play and you pug up for Urgos, well obviouly your either planning on leeching, or your going to screw the others that took you in the group. Thats not fair or cool for anyone. Just saying.

So yes I still PUG. Both inside and out of alliances. I just wish others would respect the PUG system and only go into PUGs if they have time to do so.

Bryant Again · Oct 24, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by arcady

Enjoyment wise:

Humans > players of Wa/Mos > PUGing with Pre-searing Gwen > Heroes > Henchmen.

To that I say: To each his own. I have *much* more fun than having to play henchies than with a person who doesn't know what they're doing at all.

You can't see me · Oct 24, 2007, 11:41 PM // 23:41

I only PuG in Slaver's Exile for the sake of getting it done for the cash. It's hit and miss, but it really doesn't bother me.

Other than that if I'm not doing another elite dungeon/area I'll use Henchman/Heros.

My Guild isn't active enough to call upon for action, I should leave it.

Tarkin · Oct 24, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz

Heros > humans> hench

good players... > heros > human = henchs > dumb players ...